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Slow Paced Horror? - CreepingDead - 06-14-2010 I haven't seen it yet but there's a new film called "House of the Devil" that's getting good reviews and it fits under this catagory Slow Paced Horror? - Jasonlivessince1980 - 06-14-2010 The House of the Devil is an excellent suspense/horror film. I saw it on TV and thought I was watching some classic horror film I'd never heard of, def recommend it. Keep a lookout for Ti West, he knows horror.Hollywood is definitely not looking for real talent or creativity. These torture porn kiddies just lack taste if they can't appreciate a good suspense film. I don't mind extreme gore, but its like the difference between Guinness and Bud Light. Slow Paced Horror? - Hydrocephalus - 06-14-2010 Slow paced suspense horror hasn't died and it never really will. The films with the terrible pacing and overabundant cliches of today are the sequels and remakes created by film producers and studios. The films that are now genre defining classics were made by artists with the idea of making a good film. Aside from not being in a major studio's pocket, directors like Carpenter, Hooper, or Hitchcock were not out to make a "slasher" or horror flick, they were concerned with conveying dark terror through their medium and craft. Their work was not of the genre, but rather created and redefined it. Like anything else, something of true quality and substance is rare, and only comes around every so often. But, when it does, and especially in the genre of film, it is shamelessly imitated, regurgitated, and cheapened in the name of profit. Those film studios and the hack directors they hire, fail to see nuance and subtlety that make the classics true works of art. They look with superficial eyes at what they are going to imitate or rehash with more thought on shallow imagery and profit than the themes, story, inspiration, pacing, dialogue, ideas, and messages the classics were looking to express. To make an analogy: they want to to put implants on the Venus de Milo, and make it into a bumper sticker. They also insult their audience with over explanation and over exposure of what is not necessary to divulge. They fail to grasp that horror is at it's best a very cerebral genre, and it's what we don't know or see that both terrifies us and fascinates us.Certainly there are movies today that are brilliant examples of the horror genre, made by talented artistic directors. The problem is that a film like "Let the Right One in" are eclipsed by the overactive promotional machine of Hollywood trash, until it gets remade and joins the train wreck. As long as these uninspired films continue to make profit, that is what will represent the genre today. The problem is, money talks, and so B.S. is what we are forced to watch. Slow Paced Horror? - GraveOctober - 06-15-2010 <!--quoteo(post=367280:date=Jun 14 2010, 07:00 AM:name=knewby)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (knewby @ Jun 14 2010, 07:00 AM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=367280\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecGreat topic! Kids today, sadly 2/3 of this board<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndI try not to take offense to comments like that, being that I've been on the boards since I was 11, and am now 18. Hell, I'm the one who made this thread. I always loved the original's more, but it wasn't until the past couple years that I analyzed them as films, through the directing point of view, to truly understand why they are better. I created this topic, just to see people say "the kids on this forum", and I would take offense to that but I realize it's <b>completely</b> true. A number of the younger audiences on the forum jump on these new films. I personally don't see a single thing to like about most of these new films. They are simply cash films released for box office hits. I'm sure dvd sales are atrocious on them. I just wish they cared about it. And it's REALLY not just with kids/teens.A small number of modern films have appealed to me, I beleive there was a thread for this somewhere else Slow Paced Horror? - Deadguy71 - 06-16-2010 Unfortunately, doing a slow paced horror these days is made more difficult by: #1- A culture that has a short attention span and requires fast pacing, and "jolts" every so often to be entertained. #2- A culture that has cellphones. Help is always a few button presses away from any character, unless parted from their cellphone. If you DO part a character from their cellphone, you have to do it in an original manner, or again you lose the audience immersion. #3- A culture that thinks they know what they want. In "selling" a film, you first appease to what the audience thinks they want, (in order to fill up the theater seats) and then have to deliver what they really DO want instead, so that the film is worth watching. Audiences ask for things like "more blood", "more carnage", "more gore", "a Hard R rating", "famous actors", "bigger/better explosions".. Michael Bay stuff.. None of which make for a better film (aside from famous actors, assuming they're also good actors). #4- This culture also beleives that knowing everything that's in a film will tell them if they'll like the movie or not. That's a completely ridiculous statement on SOO many levels. Taken at face value, this is like someone trying to tickle themselves; it simply doesn't work like that. You could tell someone where your ticklish spot is, (or what genre you prefer, or storylines you definately hate, or whatever), but that's about as close as you're going to get. Think about your musical tastes, and then go ahead and make songs that you'll like and listen to all the time, it's the same mentality. The deeper meaning though is also that you simply CAN't know what everyone is going to contribute to a film. You can GUESS at some of them, based on what you might know of them, but it'd be a bit like betting on horses. Certain actors can save certain films, or doom others.. the same goes for special effects, lighting directors, cinematography choices.. etc, etc. Mixing and matching these elements together often create unpredictable outcomes. You can often see when a movie has no chance of crossing your finish line, but you'll never know how poorly, or how strongly, it'll make an impression on you, and because your life experience differs from everyone else, just cuyz you hate or love it, doesn't guarantee anyone else will agree. Personally, I have yet to find a film that wasn't worth watching for SOME reason (even if I were making fun of it), but plenty I'd never pay for. #5- Moneylenders who play into the myth that the culture knows what it wants. Moneylenders try to make all of their money back in the first weekend at the theaters. They listen to trends, meaning that if a movie did well, and the fans of that film cited "ultra-violence" as being one of the elements that made it so good, or made that movie stick out above the rest, then they assume that the next horror film should have that in it, or it simply won't do well as it could. More importantly, the "ultra-violence" needs to appear in the trailer, so that potential fans will say "hey, that thing has got everything it needs in-order to be a smash hit! Let's go see it!" Their driving force isn't to creat a great movie, but to make money by getting people convince that a new film has all the elements that the filmgoers will pay to go see. "pay to go see", not "enjoy" TL DR; |