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What Was Harder - mybankey - 12-02-2008

<!--quoteo(post=285931:date=Dec 1 2008, 08:20 PM:name=the green ghoul)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(the green ghoul @ Dec 1 2008, 08:20 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=285931\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecSounds like my daily routine. The Alfrey DVD's are great .There is a mistake on the Alfrey video I am told. You aren't supposed to let the detail print coat completely dry before adding the second layer . When you do that the second layer goes through it's heating , expandinding and contracting phase and cracks the print coat. You just need to let it almost loose it's shine . It may have beencorrected but I have been getting emails from customer/friends about cracked molds and thats where they got the info.Honestly save your money and don't buy the kits get all of the stuff locally and more affordable. Clay can be purchaced at local art stores or pottery supply warehouses. I prefer WED clay (EM 217) or Chavant NSP MediumGo to <a href=\"http://www.usg.com/\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.usg.com/</a> and find a local supplier for Ultra cal 30 i rarely use it I prefer what Don Post has always used also made by USG #1 pottery plaster or Hydra calYou really shouldn't even bother with latex until you have purchaced an anatomy book and some clay,tools and either pipe or head of sorts. I recommend Jon Fullers armature if he still sells it you won't have to cut the head off and extend it or get a mannequin head.If you can't sculpt and learn the molding process the latex will be wasted $$ I have seen this time after time after time.I recommend the anatomy book Anatomy for the artist by stephen rodgers peck . Just about every FX artist and mask maker friend I have own it. Any anatomy book should do even Google head and neck anatomy. If there isn't underlying structrure implied then it will be flat and fake looking. I wish I had the internet 20 years ago when I started by trial and error racing to do the details. Once I started to listen to fellow artists far better than I am the sculptures got better.I HIghly recommend The John Brown videos if using Oil clay from <a href=\"http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/dvds/scu03.html\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/dvds/scu03.html</a>If Using Wed <a href=\"http://philippefaraut.com/\" target=\"_blank\">http://philippefaraut.com/</a> or the Demos by Jordu Schell <a href=\"http://www.monsterclub.com/videos-and-dvds/dvds-and-videos/2-___dvd-masters-class-1.html\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.monsterclub.com/videos-and-dvds...rs-class-1.html</a>I love what most artists love the drawing sculpting and painting. Mold making is messy and tends to scare you in the beginning after countless hours of work . Once you've made a few it gets to be routine .You come to realize no mold = no mask or Bad mold = bad mask.I know you guys didnt ask for this info but I'd hate to see you over spend . I get lots of my materials from www.makeupkits.com Great guys and they supply to the major Hollywood FX shops.Justin<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndWow!Thanks sooo much Justin. I hope I can learn all of that.Thanks again,Tom <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\"Smile\" border=\"0\" alt=\"smile.gif\" />


What Was Harder - deadthing74 - 12-02-2008

Yeah thanks Justin. I've been looking for some good DVDs. You can never learn enough in this field.-BillNSP


What Was Harder - chilidog77 - 12-02-2008

Sculpting, matching the sides I always start on the right side, the left side is always harder for me it just a bad habit. I call it practice also <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":thumbsup:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"thumbsup.gif\" />


What Was Harder - the green ghoul - 12-02-2008

Yeah don't forget the mirrir trick.Always easy to sculpt the opposite ear while looking at the other int he mirror.Justin


What Was Harder - frosty - 12-02-2008

What the boss said!For me moulding and casting has allways been my least favourite part of mask making, we can't get any of the plasters that you guys use, i use dental stones and fine casting plasters for my mould work, not as good as the plasters available in the states.I love making stuff, my favourite part is sculpting and painting, thats when you see all the hard work is worth it.


What Was Harder - GBeninati - 12-03-2008

I wouldn't have dreamed about making a mask if it wasn't for justin's help... I never want to make another.. too much work lol