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Texas Chainsaw Massacre - Lewis Tully - 11-08-2004
Yup, but they weren\'t kids, they were teenagers, and he usually had "relations" with them. (I suppose some people would call teenagers "kids" but just differentiate between "kids:" age 1-13, and Teenagers: age 13-20)
JCG
Texas Chainsaw Massacre - travsall - 11-08-2004
Okay, I wanna clear up a few things, I\'ve done a fair bit of research on Eddy, Lewis was mostly right save for a few points. Ed was a psychopath in the truest sence, meaning he felt no remorse, guilt, anguish, or anything towards his crimes, he did what he wanted because it pleased him. He was also schitsofrenic (sp?) he halucinated, heard voices etc, very good chance he also suffered from body dismorphic disorder. He didn\'t feel right in his own skin, but didn\'t know why, he thought he may have been more comfortabe as a woman, hence the making and wearing of his woman suit. (this was a piece used for the Buffalo Bill character in Silence)
His first actual kill was his own brother in 44, he was uncomfortable with Ed\'s relationship with their mother, and voiced that opinion. Ed supposedly killed him while the two of them were fighting a brush fire together. He was found, by authorities led by Ed (directly to the site) with a caved in skull, the ground under him was also untouched by fire. Ed was never convicted due to lack of evidence.
Ed\'s mother Agusta died in 45 of a stroke, she was his only real human contact and tie to any sence of morality and sanity. Once she was gone, he was free to induldge in his fantasies. He started out robbing graves, taking parts like hands, feet, heads at the begining. He used the Plainfield obituaries to target recently dead women in their 40s and 50s, dug them up under cover of night, and took the parts home with him. He did this for aproximatly 8 years, emassing an unbelievable amount of human remains that he would use on a daily basis for any number of things.
Once that didn\'t satisfy his needs anymore, he turned to the living. He is only credited with 2 confirmed kills, Mary Hogan and Bernice Worden, shot point blank in the head with a .22 caliber gun. But it is very possible he may have killed more in the neighborhood of a dozen people, including young children and 2 hunters, all who dissapeared around that time and could be loosly tied in one way or another to Ed, or the Gein property. (parts were found on the property that could have easily belonged to them, but due to the lack of forensics then, nothing could be proven)
On Nov 17 1957 police entered Gein\'s farmhouse on a suspission of murder, upon entering the kitchen they found the evicerated body of Bernice Worden tied upside down and headless, in the same manner you would dress a deer, like Lewis said. That was the begining of their nightmare, countless other body parts of varying decomposition were found all over the part of the house Ed was occupying (he borded up the rooms his mother liked as a shrine to her) Cannabalism was never proved, but the way Bernice Worden was found, and the fact that one of her kidneys was beside the stove does suggest it.
Ed would not confess to any of the murders at first, but then gradually gave in and admitted killing Mary Hogan and Bernice Worden, recounting his crimes with gidy enthusiasum, he did contend most of his memories of the crime were hazy and partially incoherent, confirming his mental disorder further. Ed was sentenced to live in the Central State Hospital for the criminally insane, where he was said to be a model patient, very cooperative and curtious to the nurses and doctors. He stayed there until his death in 84 of cancer. (This was a VERY brief overview BTW)
And for the link to TCM, it had nothing to do with it really other then a few allusions. Tobe got the idea for the movie standing in line at a hardware store, he was becoming impatient and noticed a display of chainsaws, he thought to himself how easy it would be to fire one up and plow through the line. This got him thinking about the idea for a chainsaw weilding killer. It was a friend who told him about Ed and his crimes. They were incorporated into the skin wearing, and the Sawyer house interior, which is VERY close to Ed\'s.
A closer match to Ed was Norman Bates from psycho, almost the exact same mental state and condition. Buffalo Bill was more like the wild idea of Ed thought by a 10 year old kid hearing the story for a first time, taking the most outlandish and accentuating it.
Hope that clears things up!
Texas Chainsaw Massacre - Lewis Tully - 11-08-2004
.... Yuh.... What he said....
Thanks for clearing some stuff up for us, Trav. An INTERESTING guy, indeed, that Eddie was... I didn\'t know about the other hunters and children, and such, but I do remember his brother, now that you mention it, I\'d forgotten about him. All, very, very interesting stuff... Crazy people, can\'t live with \'em, can\'t make enough movies about \'em...
JCG
Texas Chainsaw Massacre - WilliamAbuJannah - 11-08-2004
the original had a gritty documentary like feel. Almost like you were a witness to some awful home movie. The remake was really really cool, but it definetely felt like a movie. Expecially with the guy from Full Metal Jacket running around screaming at people like he does in almost all his movies and tv shows.
But the remake saw? **drool** that was a nice saw.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre - IbDaToNeGuY - 11-08-2004
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre never happened in real life but it is based on true events that have happened . just like the movie open water , it didn\'t happen to those 2 people but there have been people lost at sea in that same way and that\'s why the movie said it\'s based on true events that took place . but back to the TCM thing , there is and never was a bubba but the real person that he is based off of is Ed Gein .
mike,
true story and true events are kinda different
Texas Chainsaw Massacre - davisbaby - 11-08-2004
THE REMAKE IS WAY TOO HOLLWOOD! THE ORIGINAL IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO!
Texas Chainsaw Massacre - puckface - 11-08-2004
If you havent yet, pick up "Ed Gein" that movie is great, however, I find myself bamboozled becasue I am amused by a real life psycho thta had real victims :unsure:
Texas Chainsaw Massacre - AresWrath - 11-08-2004
All in favor of a serial killer Ed Gein mask? i would like to see one or at least a prop bust of him or Ramirez or Gacy or Bundy
Texas Chainsaw Massacre - WilliamAbuJannah - 11-08-2004
I believe Cemetary Gate Productions has an Ed Gein mask.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre - puckface - 11-08-2004
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I aslo remmeber one that was pretty insane, that had obscene body parts as eye slits :unsure:
