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H2 - scabboy - 08-30-2009 I saw it today, did not really like it much. I DID like how Rob painted Myers to be viable, so to speak. People complain about the beard and such, but c'mon... you don't think Michael can grow one? It makes sense and did not bother me, neither did the groans and all of that jazz.I liked it better than the pieces of dung like H5,6, 7, etc and the remake... I figure that it can't be as bad as those atrocities. At least Rob tried doin something a bit different instead of carbon-copying the films before him.In the end, just another lame Halloween movie- as far as I am concerned the original H2 was the last GOOD Myers film and H3 was the last good Halloween film. Throw this on the ever-growing pile of H- dung. H2 - VF 31 - 08-31-2009 im just rlly on the fence about even seeing this,prolly gonna wait till its somewhere on the internet <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":o\" border=\"0\" alt=\"ohmy.gif\" /> H2 - Scottie - 08-31-2009 If I go to the theaters any time soon, it will be to see <b>District 9</b>. I already know what this new <i>Rob Cummings'</i> garbage is all about, and the motivations behind its creation. I will never see this "film", and I won't loose any sleep over it either. I gave the first remake a shot out of loyalty to the franchise, but I quickly learned that the current powers that be are a completely different and inferior breed. Never again will I make that mistake, or waste my time and hard earned money on cinematic garbage. I am perfectly content watching the original <!--coloro:#FFA500<span style=\"color:#FFA500\"><!--/coloro<b>Halloween</b><!--colorc</span><!--/colorc series(<i>accept for Resurrection</i> <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/teehee.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":teehee:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"teehee.gif\" />) till my heart's content. From what the critics are saying, and the poor box office results from their opening weekend, it appears I am not the only one who feels that way either. To think they moved the date to August because they were scared to go up against <i>Saw 18</i> in October, and they still managed to be annihilated by <i>Final Destination 3D</i>. Way to go! <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":thumbsup:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"thumbsup.gif\" /> <!--coloro:#FFA500<span style=\"color:#FFA500\"><!--/coloro<b>Long live John Carpenter!</b><!--colorc</span><!--/colorc -s H2 - SideshowFreak - 08-31-2009 This film was mediocre at best. I did like it better than the first RZ Halloween, but that's not saying much! AARRRGGGHHHH AAAARRRRGGGHHH I think Myers was trying out for the roll of the Karloff monster.Super human car lifting ability?? Hulk mad! Come on!The hippie/bum/Vietnam Vet look? Just sad! The Rambo knife? Yo Adriane!Excessive blood and bone breaking? Did i just watch SAW, Hostel? Oh yeah it was Halloween.The overall story line I actually liked,but other than that well.............. I don't understand why some of you think the severe violence makes a good horror movie? In my mind it's just the opposite. If If you can give me that thrill and freak me out without the unnecessary blood, gore and over the top bone breaking sound effects then i feel that the director has really done there job. Excessive blood and severe violence is a no brainier and it's the cheap and easy way out of having to be artistic and creative director. WOW kids it's brutal it must be good!!Just my opinion.-Jared H2 - josephchoi - 08-31-2009 My review- SPOILERS!!!With all the polarizing views on the movie that started months before he movie was even out, it honestly piqued my interest. Partly because if I wanted to diss something, I might as well have reasons to, rather than be like so many others here who's simply here to diss the movie and its fans without even having watched the movie themselves.For those who are too lazy to read the rest, here it is, simply put. I didn't like it. I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it.I felt the movie had some interesting ideas, the white horse being one of them. He saw his mother as "pure," as his archetype of "perfect." The connection between Laurie and Michael through hallucinations and nightmares, among other things, was pretty cool, rather reminiscent of H4 and H5. I rather liked Rob's idea of exploring the effect of surviving Myers attacks, and it understandably leaves her traumatized, and beyond a mess. Loomis being an hiney Dr.Phil as a concept I also was rather intrigued by, because I thought it left the character open for a character arc of someone who's ripped from his complacent safety of his life to a monster he truly realizes he had a part in creating. Sheriff Brackett by Brad Dourif was as usual, great. I think he played the role perfectly- a fatherly figure who's trying to hide a terrible secret, whose trying to be there for his daughter and her friend, despite the unimaginable burden he has to carry. The dream sequences where there is both the adult and young Michael was quite clever, since I saw it as his halted stage of development. His child persona was where he stopped growing, and his adult Myers was as he saw himself physically.Where the movie fell apart were the delivery of his ideas and concepts. I think this was because Rob doesn't seem to know restraint. His style is so "in-your-face" in that the potentials his ideas could have had are unrealized and glossed over because it's literally unwatchable in alot of scenes. The White Horse and Ghost Sheri I feel would have had more impact if it was subtle, and hinted at, instead of having her in almost every scene where Michael is present.It was as if the movie had to bash us over our heads that it's supposed to be surreal and psychological. Which is funny, because it really didn't progress conceptually from that, I felt. The same went for Laurie's "hallucinations." These hallucinations also suffered from not making alot of sense. Alot of times I'm wondering "why did Laurie look like a female Rob "White" Zombie?" or "what was the point of showing the white horse so many times?"Another weakness in the movie was the script. All the characters were pretty much unlikeable, or undeveloped, or both. What was the point of the rednecks who got killed? All we have is a paper-thin "context" of them showing up, but it really didn't serve the story at all. Laurie's "punk" friends were written so self-consciously it made me wonder if the script ever even had revisions. Normally I'm not even bothered by that sort of things, but it was distracting in the way they seemed to be like some characters in Warcraft who just says a line and walks away. I couldn't give two Sheeps if they died. This was a flaw I noticed in his previous Halloween, but in a lesser level. This time, the characters had NO sympathy. They needed more screen-time to help the audience develop empathy. Perhaps break them out of their "rebel" stereotype and show them to support Laurie in her time of need?Speaking of two-bit characters, this movie was full of them. What was the point of the store-owner? Or the guy with the mic at the party? Or the psychologist. They say about 2 lines, then NEVER appear again. What's the point of the that? I was especially disappointed about the psychologist, since I thought it was another potential that was never looked into. She could have helped Laurie, or maybe she could posit a different perspective on Laurie's downfall into madness. But, they just say their lines, then disappear. The strip club was the same, except maybe they were more like the rednecks in the truck.The movie also had several problems of not making any sense, probably due to lack of development. Rob did an excellent job of hammering into our heads that Loomis was an hiney Dr.Phil who's only out for money. His "character arc" was nonsensical, since his assistant said her "this is wrong" thing that went ignored. So why did he suddenly become the "good guy" again? Was it Weird Al who changed his mind? (who, by the way, gets my Random Cameo of the Year award) Are we supposed to say that Weird Al was indirectly responsible for saving the day? Why were so many questions unanswered, while his most thematic elements like the white horse and laurie's insanity bashed into the viewer's heads without exploring any further about them? Why bother with the surreal "halloween" scene when it's only there for one scene? Why bother opening up so many venues to look into if you're not going to explore them? Why do they even want Laurie in the first place? Do they want a family? If so, why is she in a coffin? What's the point of that? Why does Laurie look like Sheri in Michael's dreams? Is that supposed to suggest some sort of a sick psycho-sexual attraction to her? Is it to suggest that Laurie is perfect too?The kills were also muddled. There were no real variety in the kills. I'm not sure if the repeated stabbings are Rob's attempts at "shock" through gore, but I just felt passé at all this. Again, I feel this could have been saved by a bit of restraint. Show less, and it'll be more effective. It felt like a joke that'd been told too many times. It lost its edge after the first two stabs. If you show a restraint, then go full out perhaps twice, or thrice (max) then it has that much more impact because it's a sudden change in tone. On a side note, why did he kill Annie? Rob spends so much trying to explain his motivation, then he does these things every once in a while that do not coincide with what he said previously.At the end, with the cops surrounding the barn, it, again made no sense just as Loomis's sudden change of heart made no sense. Why is Laurie resisting strongly, then suddenly says "I love you mommy" and "I love you, brother"? If it was even hinted at, and perhaps had a bit of a transition, it would have made more sense. But it came suddenly without adequate warning, which is partly the fault of the over-exposure of the "thematic" elements while not further elucidating them. When the police surrounded the barn, I was thinking "perhaps Rob could make this into an exciting cat-and-mouse with the cops?"but nah. Michael just gets shot by the cops, and stabbed by Laurie.... who then suddenly says that she "loves [him], brother"The ending music with the Laurie theme was brilliant. Honestly I felt it was the best part of the movie, because it fit so well with what the end was about (laurie pulling a Bateman kinda thing).Too bad the rest of the movie didn't have renditions of the carpenter scores, or at least something that sort of paid homage to it, if not recalled the notes.Overall, I wasn't impressed with the movie. I felt with the ideas already present, it could have been so much better.(side note, the dying guy in the van who gets his head cut off... was he in pain? was he annoyed? was he angry? was he trying not to laugh? wtf was that?) H2 - myersman - 08-31-2009 Saw it last night! I actually enjoyed it! its better than that thorn crap! H2 - horrorpunk138 - 08-31-2009 i'm in the minority of people that really enjoyed it. it was FAR from a perfect film, but overall it had a creepy vibe, some great kills, and alot of interesting surreal images( white horse excluded). of course nothing can touch the original two movies, but i dug this one far more than parts 5-8 and the remake. H2 - PREMATURE INKER - 08-31-2009 I thought Highschool Musical 3 was much better then H2..I'm just sayin'J H2 - pepito - 08-31-2009 <!--quoteo(post=328016:date=Aug 31 2009, 09:40 AM:name=PREMATURE INKER)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (PREMATURE INKER @ Aug 31 2009, 09:40 AM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=328016\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecI thought Highschool Musical 3 was much better then H2..I'm just sayin'J<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndFunniest thing I've ever read H2 - WHiTE_SiDER - 09-01-2009 saw it tonight...i think the movie is good...Not bad at all like a lot of u guys said...peoples love to hate it only because zombie did it and they hate him lol |