What Is Going On...

[🪦 EVOL ●]

<!--quoteo(post=303882:date=Mar 16 2009, 09:40 PM:name=voorheesfanatic)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(voorheesfanatic @ Mar 16 2009, 09:40 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=303882\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecI agree with everything you said, being a member here for under a year now, I don't post here much, and don't know that I ever will. With the way people respond a lot of the times, doesn't seem worth it, for all of the reasons you mentioned.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndIt really is a shame that people feel that way about the forum............I can see why people feel this way. There's been a few times where I've gotten a bad taste in my mouth by things that were said....... It's a real shame. Mike is a great guy and we should have more people like him on here. <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":biggrin:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"biggrin.gif\" /> <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":thumbsup:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"thumbsup.gif\" /> All of us really need to pull togather and keep this place clean so people like Mike will want to post on here and not feel like they don't want to because of certain comments that are made.I really hate to come on here and see things like that especially because I really do care about this forum and tis community and I always will. I fell like I had to respond to this because Mike is my friend and he did bring up a valid point. All the best,Jay

[🪦 mpetrie ●]

I've had my own face ripped off on forums before. I've only been in this community for about a year and a half and when I first got involved, I just had barely started getting into glove building. I didn't know the community. I didn't know the standards. I didn't know how to conduct myself around other glove builders. I figured these were just hobbies of people and I wasn't aware that they took it all so seriously. I remember whe I first got into glove building and was heavily into the experimental phase of my gloves... I asked publicly and privately for hints, tips, methods, etc to make my gloves look better. I didn't think that was such a big deal since again, I thought people did this for a hobby and wouldn't mind sharing their techniques to help a fellow newby. Turns out, it's a big no-no and I had my face ripped off several times for it. It seems that some experienced people seem to forget that newbies don't know that rules of conduct within some circles and instead of kindly advising them, they become irate and offended at the mere request for help. I kind of saw it as a form of sculpting... I see a lot of people posting photos or questions about sculpting (where to get tools, materials, techniques, etc) and I see information swapped freely. But glove-building seems to be in a world of its own and asking for help is typically completely off-limits. I have come to learn and understand this now and even though I now tell newbies that they must learn on their own, I've had those same people who chewed my face off for asking come back to chew it some more for telling the new person that they must learn how. Seems like some people have a double standard a double standard and I personally think it's unfortunate that some behave this way on these forums.