Crazy Mother Shoots Her Son Then Herself At Gun Range

[🪦 johnp ●]

This is a very sad story. I think mental disturbance was the primary culprit here, not guns or religion.And for the record, people should definitely have the right to bare arms; it would be a great injustice if we were always forced to wear long-sleeve shirts. <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/teehee.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":teehee:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"teehee.gif\" /> About the right to bear arms, well, that's another debate... <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":tongue:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" />

[🪦 Deadguy71 ●]

lol.. you guys are scaring me with the right "bare" arms..It's BEAR arms.. and it's our constitutional right because we are supposed to have them to overthrow the current government by force if we don't agree with it. Just like the freedom of speech is supposed to work the same way, but folks somehow take it to mean they can cuss when they want to.. rather than use it to speak out against our government which is the intended purpose of the Right.To "Bear" arms, is to be able to carry them.. to "bare" arms suggests unholstering them wherever we go..Anyways.. she was at a gun range. even in England you can have a gun at a gun range, that's how most of the "guy walking down the street shooting folks" starts over there. Try that over here in the US and you won't get far. Well, unless you're armored from head to toe, but even THAT doesn't last long (the "great california shoot-out").All I know is that.. screwed-up or not.. she had some guts doing that.. I would assume she thought she was doing a good thing for her son.. that didn't seem to be "out of anger".. that would be hard taking a bead on your son in-front of you like that. Folks never cease to amaze me.

[🪦 josephchoi ●]

<!--quoteo(post=310100:date=Apr 20 2009, 02:17 PM:name=imperialhockmaster)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (imperialhockmaster @ Apr 20 2009, 02:17 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=310100\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecWith all do respect mate, you know i love ya and respect your opinion, and Yea this is bad news, some people are sick and disturbed, most people arent this disturbed, but in my opinion the gun doesnt kill, it has no bias, nor feeling, and doesnt know what its doing, its simply an instrument, people kill, plain and simple, we have the right to bare arms because we have the right to hunt and protect our homes and family at all costs, this is america, the most violent country in the world, they would be crazy to dis arm all the good people who own guns, the reason is as clear as day, we would be unarmed and the common criminal who doesnt need permission or a permit to buy a gun or carry it, well he would be the only one with a gun, just like our drug problem that america has been at war with for how many yrs now, 20-30 or more, the drug biz is better then ever here now, we need our guns, and the only way they will get mine is to peel it from my cold dead hand or we would just be at the mercy of our well armed criminals! I guess you would have to live here to understand how quick (My mommy is going to wash my mouth out with soap!) goes wrong here, at any moment, at least ill be ready, and maybe im justr american, but ifeel like most my friends and family, ive owned my guns responsibly for over 10 yrs I LOVE MY GUNS, AND MY RIGHTS TO BARE THEM !!<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndAlthough I personally don't agree with gun ownership (plain and simple it's an instrument designed for the sole purpose to kill... I can't agree with that) but I gotta agree with Don in a way, in that it's far too late imo for the US to suddenly ban gun ownership. By now it's so entrenched in the system and culture that, like drugs, it's simply impossible to ban it. Still, I think there should be more of a screening process when applying for gun licenses. But what do I know? I'm a Canuck <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\"\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" />

[🪦 mpetrie ●]

If this was done for a religious reason, here are my two cents:"The Lord receiveth them up unto himself, in glory; and he doth suffer that they may do this thing, or that the people may do this thing unto them, according to the hardness of their hearts, that the judgments which he shall exercise upon them in his wrath may be just; and the blood of the innocent shall stand as a witness against them, yea, and cry mightily against them at the last day."

[🪦 Jason816 ●]

"You wanna know..why I use a knife? Guns are too quick. You Cant savor all the little..emotions. You see, in their last moments...people show you who they really are....So in a way, i knew your friends better than you ever did....would you like to know which of them were cowards? lol sorry, had to throw my favorite saying in. i HATE guns but LOVE blades, knives, etc.

[🪦 Mutilated ●]

<!--quoteo(post=310285:date=Apr 21 2009, 03:04 PM:name=Jason816)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Jason816 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:04 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=310285\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotec"You wanna know..why I use a knife? Guns are too quick. You Cant savor all the little..emotions. You see, in their last moments...people show you who they really are....So in a way, i knew your friends better than you ever did....would you like to know which of them were cowards? lol sorry, had to throw my favorite saying in. i HATE guns but LOVE blades, knives, etc.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndLock Stock, love that movie. On topic, that women was insane, just proves how insane those religious nutjobs are. Mental Illness + Religion is not a good mix.

[🪦 mpetrie ●]

<!--quoteo(post=310301:date=Apr 21 2009, 01:48 PM:name=Kyle)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Kyle @ Apr 21 2009, 01:48 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=310301\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecLock Stock, love that movie. On topic, that women was insane, just proves how insane those religious nutjobs are. Mental Illness + Religion is not a good mix.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndMental illness + anything is not a good mix. There just happen to be more religious people than not.There are tons of people who just snap and kill people for non-religious reasons. I would say the vast majority are non-religious. Look at, for example, Mark Hacking (happened in my state). His wife discovered his web of lies about his schooling and plans and he just shot her in bed one night because he couldn't take the shame of being exposed by her. Mental illness is the problem... religion just becomes some people's crutch to lean their excuses on.

[🪦 mybankey ●]

<!--quoteo(post=310310:date=Apr 21 2009, 04:08 PM:name=knifegloves.com)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (knifegloves.com @ Apr 21 2009, 04:08 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=310310\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecMental illness + anything is not a good mix. There just happen to be more religious people than not.There are tons of people who just snap and kill people for non-religious reasons. I would say the vast majority are non-religious. Look at, for example, Mark Hacking (happened in my state). His wife discovered his web of lies about his schooling and plans and he just shot her in bed one night because he couldn't take the shame of being exposed by her. Mental illness is the problem... religion just becomes some people's crutch to lean their excuses on.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndVery well said.