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    NightOwl Forums The Crypt Off Topic Honest Opinions Needed Please

     
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    🪦 Sinister ●
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    #21
    01-10-2006, 05:10 PM
    Quote:Aside from that, I do have some good news... I\'m about to release 5 brand new designs (yes, Sinister, the Silver Bullet is one of them  ) soon and I am quite happy with them so far and I hope you guys will like\'em too. Stay tuned!

    Yay! Can\'t wait to send you some money. Big Grin
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    #22
    01-10-2006, 06:56 PM
    Quote:Yay! Can\'t wait to send you some money.

    Can\'t wait to get some! Big Grin :lol:

    Al, in response to your note, I do agree with you to a large extent. However, I understand the other side of it as well. The thing is, even if they did not care about what I do (or any of us, for that matter), their licensees probably do. I\'m sure companies like Neca pay New Line a pretty penny to be able to produce toys and shirts based on their characters. And if they let me do basically the same thing (at least with shirts) for free, that\'s not fair because I\'m technically a direct competitor. Sure, I\'m nowhere near the size of Neca, but through the internet I can sell my product worldwide, so essentially I am in the same marketplace, though I am kept out of retail chains due to lack of proper licenses. Besides, they have no idea how large or small I am anyway, so they cannot afford to assume.

    I\'m not saying I\'m happy about it, or that I\'m on their \"side\". I firmly believe that us fans help keep franchises like Friday the 13th a hot commodity. And now with the internet, it\'s even bigger because we have websites and forums like these that bring us all together and help drive a large part of the market.

    In my opinion, it\'s a shame that fans do not have a chance to share their love for these movies and somehow be able to sell items that they make based on them. It\'s either you are a huge company with lots of money that can afford licensing, or you are just a fan making hockey masks in your basement and selling them illegally trying not to get caught. There is no middle ground, and I think it\'s a shame. Part of that comes from the quality of the products available in stores. Companies often take shortcuts and substitute quality for low cost and come out with crap. I know some large companies are great at what they do, but in my opinion most of the stuff out here is crap.

    I guess I wish licensing was tier-based and allowed certain people to purchase limited licenses that allowed them to produce their products and only make a limited amount of money on them. That way we still get the quality that fans like us desire, New Line actually gets a cut of it, and we are not living in fear. Even if a fan made say, $10,000 in a year, that\'s alot to one person and nothing to a large company. The only problem, again, comes down to competition...that would mean large companies would have to actually think about the crap they put out as opposed to just shitting out whatever they want and slapping a name on it.

    Sorry for the long rant, guys...and thanks to anyone who read on this far :lol: It just seems to me that there can be a middle ground somewhere...but until we prove to companies like New Line that we are an extremely important part of their profits (at least for horror), then they can pretty much have their way.
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    #23
    01-10-2006, 06:58 PM
    I don\'t like itand it sucks what has happened, but honeslty...who besides us is going to know that is is not exactly what jason\'s mask looked like...it still gets the point across.
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    #24
    01-10-2006, 07:00 PM (This post was last modified: 01-10-2006, 07:01 PM by GBeninati.)
    I got an idea
    a shirt that says...

    [color=\"white\"]
    <span style=\'font-size:30pt;line-height:100%\'>WHAT
    WOULD
    JASON
    DO?[/color]
    </span>
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    #25
    01-10-2006, 07:05 PM (This post was last modified: 01-10-2006, 08:47 PM by fright-rags.)
    Quote:I don\'t like itand it sucks what has happened, but honeslty...who besides us is going to know that is is not exactly what jason\'s mask looked like...it still gets the point across.

    That\'s kind of what I thought too. I mean, I don\'t think it is a super-amazing design, but given the circumstances, I think the idea is still there for the general public.

    But yeah, I should just make a What Would Jason Do shirt and be done with it! :lol:
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    #26
    01-10-2006, 08:43 PM
    Yes Ben you should and i\'ll defintally buy one!
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    #27
    01-10-2006, 09:02 PM
    That\'s pretty screwed up dude, if newline produced quality t-shirts and masks then none of us would be here. You think they\'d get a clue and work out a deal with you instead of trying to mess with ya.
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    #28
    01-10-2006, 10:02 PM
    Well, I actually have spoken to the head of licensing there, both though email and on the phone. Basically they deal mostly with larger companies that can sell lots of product, therefore making them more money. They want a guaranteed minimum amount of sales over the course of a few years, plus part or half of that upfront. If they don\'t like the numbers, you don\'t get the deal. There\'s a lot to it...

    But, there is hope...if I can secure more licenses and secure financing, I\'ll have a shot at being considered to become a licensee. We\'ll see...it probably won\'t be for awhile though.
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    #29
    01-10-2006, 10:28 PM
    Quote:Well, I actually have spoken to the head of licensing there, both though email and on the phone. Basically they deal mostly with larger companies that can sell lots of product, therefore making them more money. They want a guaranteed minimum amount of sales over the course of a few years, plus part or half of that upfront. If they don\'t like the numbers, you don\'t get the deal. There\'s a lot to it...

    But, there is hope...if I can secure more licenses and secure financing, I\'ll have a shot at being considered to become a licensee. We\'ll see...it probably won\'t be for awhile though.
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    Go for it! That would be great if you could pull that off! What kinda cash are they talkin..6 figures?
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    #30
    01-10-2006, 10:32 PM
    I dont dig much. I mean its a kool generic shirt, but doesnt give that feeling of a higher quality shirt.

    How about?..
    WHAT
    WOULD
    NEWLINE
    DO?
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