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    NightOwl Forums The Crypt Off Topic Ufc 101: So Is Anderson Silva The Undisputed Best Pound For Pound Fighter In The World?

     
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    Ufc 101: So Is Anderson Silva The Undisputed Best Pound For Pound Fighter In The World?
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    #31
    08-10-2009, 11:38 PM
    Fedor is not afraid of any fighter.Brock is good but Fedor would eventually sub him.M-1 global ruined the deal with the UFC because they wanted to co-promote.Dana White/UFC will never co-promote.
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    #32
    08-10-2009, 11:58 PM
    Anyone who understands martial arts more than just sitting on the couch as viewer and a critic sees how incredible Fedor Emilianenko is. Plus, ya gotta love a guy who's so calm and humble. Brock Lesner is great as well. Very fast for his size, but like Chris said, he hasn't really fought any prime guys. 30-1 is an amazing record. 4-1 is just getting started, really. And after his latest antics, I hope Lesner goes down very soon. Will be a good lesson for him.
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    08-11-2009, 12:13 AM
    <!--quoteo(post=325137:date=Aug 10 2009, 07:38 PM:name=monteburns)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (monteburns @ Aug 10 2009, 07:38 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=325137\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecFedor is not afraid of any fighter.Brock is good but Fedor would eventually sub him.M-1 global ruined the deal with the UFC because they wanted to co-promote.Dana White/UFC will never co-promote.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndDana White actually areed to give M-1 visuals on UFC. FEDOR would have been allowed to promote M1 on his shorts T shirts and Banners, but the deal breaker was FEDOR's Management asked for half of PPV $$$. so basiclly FEDOR wanted half partnership with UFC. There was no way Dana was going to agree to such an outlandish demand... HALF of UFC? its laughable.FEDOR didnt want to come to UFC. I think he doesnt want his image tarnished if he lost in UFC. Its easier to win against the competitors Heavy weights
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    #34
    08-11-2009, 12:28 AM
    <!--quoteo(post=325138:date=Aug 10 2009, 07:58 PM:name=adam)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (adam @ Aug 10 2009, 07:58 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=325138\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecAnyone who understands martial arts more than just sitting on the couch as viewer and a critic sees how incredible Fedor Emilianenko is. Plus, ya gotta love a guy who's so calm and humble. Brock Lesner is great as well. Very fast for his size, but like Chris said, he hasn't really fought any prime guys. 30-1 is an amazing record. 4-1 is just getting started, really. And after his latest antics, I hope Lesner goes down very soon. Will be a good lesson for him.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndi can't WAIT for Lesnar to get taken down again just to hear him say once more " i gave him that fight " . what a loser , he can't even admit that he got defeated so he says that he " gave " the other fighter that fight just like he did with Mir . if you don't know by now that you are in there fighting to win than i think you are in the wrong sport . Lesnar has only his size and hammer fists to get him through his fights which is sad because of having a wrestling ( not pro wrestling ) background you'd think he'd use some of that . i mean out-weighing Randy by 45 lbs. and for him having not had a fight in over a year , i'd hardly count that as a victory but of course why not ? mr. Brock Lesnar won so he's now the God of UFC . the reason why i said that i would like to see him fight Sapp is just mainly due to size and Sapp also likes to hammer fist just as much . But carwin should be a good fight i hope mike,
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    #35
    08-11-2009, 01:33 AM
    This was quite funny. <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":tongue:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" /> Dana negotiates for Fedor:<a href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3xIqksOgww\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3xIqksOgww</a>
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    #36
    08-11-2009, 03:23 AM
    Alright.Let me clarify a few things (in defense of my Fedor-bashing/Brock-promoting).First of all.........Just to alleviate any notion that I might be a couch potato who knows nothing on the subject, I have studied martial arts since 1990 and have a firm understanding of fight styles and pragmatics. I have watched UFC live on TV since it's inception in 1993 (unlike many who only discovered it much later)...I never meant to infer that Brock Lesnar is some awesome grappler with sharp submission skills. My defense of Brock stands on the notion that he outweighs and can out muscle almost any fighter in the sport. Yes, someone can say, "Geez, all he's got is huge muscles and massive power....but he has no refined ground skills"...but it's like saying "All Brett Favre has is a great arm and pinpoint accuracy, but he can't run the ball like a tailback." People use what they got. The point of football is to score TD's. Favre is horrid at running the ball down the field, but he's great at throwing it. We don't judge him on what he <i>can't</i> do, we judge him on how well he does what he <i>can</i> do. We know what the goal of a UFC match is and Lesnar accomplishes that. It might not be submissions, but KO's and submissions weigh the same, both in the sport and on the street. If you're as big as Brock Lesnar, you don't <i>need</i> to refine your ground skills. (Although he would better if he did...) However, Brock throws out such massive power that I think many fighters know the chance of catching him being sloppy for a few seconds (like Mir's first fight against him) depends on that fighter somehow evading Lesnar's hulking attack long enough - to capitalize on it. However, that has certainly been proven difficult to achieve. Lesnar and Mir's recent match is evident of that. And don't weigh too much on Lesnar's inexperienced record. There's a reason why the Best Pound-for-Pound list still ranks him at #7 in the world in any weight class. Just like Lebron in high school, experts don't need to see it too long before they can see the potential threat of an athlete.Don't get me wrong, I f'n can't stand Lesnar. I just think many fighters are fearful of their chances against him.After his horridly ridiculous WWE-style statement after the Mir win, I think most Lesnar-haters wanted to see him get his a s s kicked. I was dying to see Fedor come to the UFC. I just think when you walk away from a Dana White deal to bring you to the NFL of fighting leagues where a fighter will ultimately get the most world exposure in his life, I just think you're not simply holding out for money....<i>there has to be something else going on.</i>
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