11-12-2008, 05:15 PM
Same here... Just had my frighstuff hockey mask auction cancelled ... something about violating Warner Bros as well.
11-12-2008, 05:15 PM
Same here... Just had my frighstuff hockey mask auction cancelled ... something about violating Warner Bros as well.
11-12-2008, 05:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-12-2008, 05:25 PM by wickedbeard.)
if you just list it as a hockey mask, it will still come up when you search anything with the word mask in it.I think the concern with the movie guys are the Tri's.They from what I have heard are trademarked.I may be wrong though.I use to sell my boba fett armor on e-bay, and I worded it ..metal fanmade replica fett style armor.I never had a prob with lucasfilm.My problems occured when I tried to sell a batman cowl.They removed that a couple times.lol
11-12-2008, 06:12 PM
The whole thing is the tri's and claiming they are Jason/Friday the 13th masks.When i stated all those years ago i used the above words and my auctions were pulled, it's not just one person out there contacting ebay, i had someone contact me once saying they had reported my auction because it was fraud, i agreed to certain degree but asked them what business it was of theirs and they informed me they were employed by new line to track people like myself down and issue CandD's. 4 weeks later i got the CandD hand delivered to my front door due to my ebay listings and website.I spent around an hour on the phone to New Line trying to sort the whole thing out and come to some compromises on both sides so i could continue, i stood my ground and here i still am, because of my involvement with Fright Stuff they took my stance seriously. I was also asked if i wanted to become licensed but after looking into it the cut they wanted to take meant they would be taking 85% of the profit and i turned it away.What surprised me was how much info they had on myself and other makers, once the agreement was reached that i was complying with the terms i spoke to another representative who had info on my activities on line and not just ebay, he said i had been tracked on night owl and mm.net for well over a year, he quoted things he could have only known looking at threads on the forums. Be aware just because you don't hear from them doesn't mean they aren't watching you, if they can prove your sales they can issue you with a claim and court order to pay them the money for the transactions they have on record. I always thought they would never bother with me because i was too small but they really came after me, i was just lucky i had a layer in the family and being connected to Fright Stuff.If your going to list masks on ebay painted by yourselves i would suggest saying they are from your personal collection. Writing up a listing making yourself look really pro seller/maker and reliable makes no difference, in my opinion it makes people look desperate, correct true information and good feedback are all you need to sell and besides if someone likes the mask they don't really care who painted or made it they will just bid it up for the way it looks. I understand why guys do it, i did it once too but the ego thing is not needed, it's the strength of your work that counts.
11-12-2008, 06:15 PM
<!--quoteo(post=283708:date=Nov 12 2008, 01:34 PM:name=BELLAMY)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(BELLAMY @ Nov 12 2008, 01:34 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=283708\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecI wonder if the guys who's doing it is the same guy who threaten to turn me in to Alliance Atlantis a couple months back because i made fun of him..?<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndI'm sure he has better things to do than report your ebay listings although i would put money on it being someone you have insulted at some point, you get back what you put out <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":biggrin:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"biggrin.gif\" />
11-12-2008, 06:24 PM
<!--quoteo(post=283708:date=Nov 12 2008, 12:04 PM:name=BELLAMY)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(BELLAMY @ Nov 12 2008, 12:04 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=283708\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecMy auctions were shut down by Warner Brothers aswellI wonder if the guys who's doing it is the same guy who threaten to turn me in to Alliance Atlantis a couple months back because i made fun of him..?<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndWell this is getting annoying, so now I have to say something here. I did threaten to report you a couple of months ago Steve, ONLY because you were accusing me of messing with your ebay auctions, emailing Ken and telling him I'm picking on you; you were spamming sales of your masks all over Frightstuff...I know you don't like me, you know I don't like you..BUT I HAVE NEVER MESSED WITH YOUR AUCTIONS, OR TURNED IN ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER!I'm saying this here and now because this is how shit starts. Someone will PM Steve and ask who, Steve will say me, then I get to be the guy who gets the blame...I'm sorry but this is BULLSHIT, I'm sick of being accused because you have a problem with me Steve.I was shut down by Warners a while ago also. Here's my old ebay ID,<a href=\"http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jdfstudios&ftab=AllFeedback&_trksid=p3911.c0.m198\" target=\"_blank\">My old ebay ID</a>This is my current ID,<a href=\"http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jdf1384&ftab=AllFeedback&_trksid=p3911.c0.m198\" target=\"_blank\">My current ebay ID</a>Look at my feedback, DO I deal in hockey masks? I rarely sell hockey masks on ebay, so why am I going to mess with peoples Hockey Mask auctions? "Well you're on the Frightstuff team, and everyone's a recaster right?" WRONG!, I'm so sick of the hockey mask drama, so sick of Ken Tarallo and the BS over at Frightstuff...I quit the Frightstuff team a week ago in fact.Steve Bellamy has a problem with me, 7 months ago I called him out for recasting Frightstuff masks, and I wasn't the only one on the team who did so Steve....I'm sorry I ever did that to you. A couple of months ago Steve accused me of messing with his ebay auctions, he left nasty comments for me in his NIGHTOWL profile, Steve's reasoning was that I'm the only guy who doesn't like him. Steve I say here and now, I have never messed with your auctions..Stop telling people I'm doing this, it's not true.All this headache over a piece of f**king plastic....And why is NIGHTOWL, a great site, the place were people like to stir shit? I rarely post here, but I visit everyday...This is a witch-hunt thread, and I'm not going to be the witch. Did it ever go through your mind that maybe one of the sellers selling licensed Jason stuff complained to ebay? No, of course not..that's just makes too much sense, too much sense that someone trying to sell licensed masks has to compete with much better looking knockoffs, and that persons only recourse is to complain to ebay... Jeff-
11-12-2008, 06:38 PM
Many collectors/sellers won't list Batman items on eBay because Warner Brothers are always having auctions shut down.They do not want artists making money off their trademarks and selling non licenced merchandise even though these items are usually nicer than any the licenced stuff.I had a real pain of a time tracking down a Howard S Batman bust and I think eventually they are going to shut the door down on any artists trying to selling their work on eBay.
<!--quoteo(post=283718:date=Nov 12 2008, 01:24 PM:name=JDF)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(JDF @ Nov 12 2008, 01:24 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=283718\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecWell this is getting annoying, so now I have to say something here. I did threaten to report you a couple of months ago Steve, ONLY because you were accusing me of messing with your ebay auctions, emailing Ken and telling him I'm picking on you; you were spamming sales of your masks all over Frightstuff...I know you don't like me, you know I don't like you..BUT I HAVE NEVER MESSED WITH YOUR AUCTIONS, OR TURNED IN ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER!I'm saying this here and now because this is how shit starts. Someone will PM Steve and ask who, Steve will say me, then I get to be the guy who gets the blame...I'm sorry but this is BULLSHIT, I'm sick of being accused because you have a problem with me Steve.I was shut down by Warners a while ago also. Here's my old ebay ID,<a href=\"http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jdfstudios&ftab=AllFeedback&_trksid=p3911.c0.m198\" target=\"_blank\">My old ebay ID</a>This is my current ID,<a href=\"http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jdf1384&ftab=AllFeedback&_trksid=p3911.c0.m198\" target=\"_blank\">My current ebay ID</a>Look at my feedback, DO I deal in hockey masks? I rarely sell hockey masks on ebay, so why am I going to mess with peoples Hockey Mask auctions? "Well you're on the Frightstuff team, and everyone's a recaster right?" WRONG!, I'm so sick of the hockey mask drama, so sick of Ken Tarallo and the BS over at Frightstuff...I quit the Frightstuff team a week ago in fact.Steve Bellamy has a problem with me, 7 months ago I called him out for recasting Frightstuff masks, and I wasn't the only one on the team who did so Steve....I'm sorry I ever did that to you. A couple of months ago Steve accused me of messing with his ebay auctions, he left nasty comments for me in his NIGHTOWL profile, Steve's reasoning was that I'm the only guy who doesn't like him. Steve I say here and now, I have never messed with your auctions..Stop telling people I'm doing this, it's not true.All this headache over a piece of f**king plastic....And why is NIGHTOWL, a great site, the place were people like to stir shit? I rarely post here, but I visit everyday...This is a witch-hunt thread, and I'm not going to be the witch. Did it ever go through your mind that maybe one of the sellers selling licensed Jason stuff complained to ebay? No, of course not..that's just makes too much sense, too much sense that someone trying to sell licensed masks has to compete with much better looking knockoffs, and that persons only recourse is to complain to ebay... Jeff-<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndSounds good brother! I have no problem with you !p.s. Although you are a very smart person, you were wrong about me recasting hockey masks... I was just buying them and painting them!
11-12-2008, 10:12 PM
<!--quoteo(post=283733:date=Nov 12 2008, 04:20 PM:name=BELLAMY)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(BELLAMY @ Nov 12 2008, 04:20 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=283733\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecSounds good brother! I have no problem with you F.A.G.'s (Frightstuff Artist Group)p.s. Although you are a very smart person, you were wrong about me recasting hockey masks... I was just buying them and painting them!<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndSince I'm not a F.A.G member anymore, I guess that insulting acronym is not directed at me, is it?Very well. I was wrong, you never recasted a frightstuff mask..I don't give a shit if you did or didn't, I'm just pointing out why you have a chip on your shoulder.So are we done being enemies yet? Like I said to you already, I don't care what you do and how you do it. If you're just looking to pick a fight, then like I told you I'm going to fight dirty, and that was the point of me threatening to report you, you just wouldn't stop with your shit. I don't want this drama, didn't ask for it. I was defending Ken's product, something I regret doing because Ken should have been doing that himself. I was being a tool, like a lot of other guys over at Frightstuff. I don't want to be your enemy Steve, I asked you once before what you want from me..you never gave me an answer, you opted to personally insult me instead.Do you want an apology? I'll be honest, I don't think you deserve one.Jeff-
11-12-2008, 10:17 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-12-2008, 10:20 PM by Ruste Dowg.)
F.A.G. <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":lol:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"laugh.gif\" /> I guess kyle is right i am a Fag!! <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":lol:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"laugh.gif\" />Watch your bottoms guys <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":laugh:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"laugh.gif\" />
11-12-2008, 10:26 PM
OK I will stop No more insults, cheap shot's or shit talk!I was only wondering if it was you because you told me you were going to report meSo yeah no more shit talking!
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