01-18-2010, 03:21 PM
ive been speaking to ken on msn and he is back and feeling better and will complete his orders.
01-18-2010, 03:21 PM
ive been speaking to ken on msn and he is back and feeling better and will complete his orders.
01-21-2010, 03:38 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-21-2010, 03:48 AM by SideshowFreak.)
<!--quoteo(post=346781:date=Jan 18 2010, 12:33 AM:name=kaizu)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (kaizu @ Jan 18 2010, 12:33 AM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=346781\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecWhen he finishes his past orders I wonder if he'll accept new ones.It would be great if he did. <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":thumbsup:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"thumbsup.gif\" /><!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndNothing personal against you Kaizu but I would never send this guy a dime! Who's to say who will not rip people off again.I don't want to come off like a D-bag but i find it amazing/funny how you can all be so understanding that this guy basically took all of your hard earned money and disappeared for over a year! No emails no explanations...nothing. That to me says he doesn't give a sh*t about any of you or this hobby. Granted you guys who have orders are glad your going to hopefully receive your items. but it also seems that your happy he is coming back to the hobby and that he is better/life's back together if you can believe his pathetic BS story.<!--quoteo<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE </div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecKen Hastings,Oh and no reason to apoligize if you posted any bad comments about me on the boards I would have done the same.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEnd LMAO!! I can't believe he has the audacity to say he doesn't want anyone to apologize! Apologize for what him being a thief?I have know tolerance for thieves, hopefully he will fill his orders and disappear again for good. -Jared
01-21-2010, 04:26 AM
i personally don't want him back . I find it to be a much better place without scam artists . Most of " those people " are smart enough to come back to fix things and then leave us all alone after it's finished and not to stick around and play the sympathy card . Either that or they don't like the legal action that some people take against them which is totally deserved . He had everything coming to him and i'd rather not share a great forum with people who run with others money and make lies about shipping a product or just ignore them after they get paid . I do my very best to stay in full contact with the person I am doing buisness with to let them know what exactly is going on . You can have the coolest products on the market but if your buisness skills are for crap then you won't last long . I think that this type of thing should result in the products being delivered plus a full refund for a waste of time that had to be thrown on those members . I may get some heat from my sayings but I have alot of strong feelings about this subject . So if you feel the need to vent your anger towards me , please do it in PM . <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\"<_<\" border=\"0\" alt=\"dry.gif\" /> mike,
01-21-2010, 04:54 AM
My 2 cents = never trust anyone one who has given ONE customer a hard time (i.e. non-filled order, delayed, etc) with a sale. Ripping off one customer (even if it's one of a thousand) makes that person a thief and for every ONE sale that is unfilled, who knows if there are three other from people who do NOT frequent any forum.
01-21-2010, 06:39 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-21-2010, 06:40 AM by Fredsmidfinger.)
If you understood what happend to him, and what he went through you would be a little more understanding..At least he is making good on his sales.. Could be worse he could have just said Fu(k it and took all your money. I saw him on messenger last night or the night b4.. Talked with him for about 3 hours.. I let him know i didn't have a glove on order and he was more than happy to talk.. He didn't want things to go like this but life happens.. Granted i didn't have to wait a year, but If you look at it from the other side.. Im sure he didn't want any of this to happen.. As he expressed to me hence why hes back. So give him a break and let him make good on his sales
01-21-2010, 08:08 AM
I don't have any orders with Ken but I think that their are some prop builders out their that keep people waiting for upto almost a year on orders anyway while still taking on new orders , not an excuse but someting to think about Yes Ken let people down before and after a few months he was back to fill all his orders and the same has happened again, I think this shows his character as being someone who has a concience and want to do the right thing and continue building gloves, their have been a lot of people just walk off with people hard earned moneyA theif is someone who takes the money and you NEVER hear from again and NEVER get your item, I don't thik it's fair to call him a theif, maybe unreliable is a better word and thats down to people if they choose to put an order in with him. I think all the orders he has now are those placed after he went missing the first time so those people placed an order with him possibly knowing he had, had problems but still chose to go with him for his quality. He is making daily posts with progress pictures of his work over on the kruegear site so you can check out for yourself where he is with the orders.I'm in the uk and don't know ken personaly but I've spoken with him for years on these forums and I can honestly say I would put an order in with him as I think he has proven he's not a theif
01-21-2010, 08:14 AM
Well put Daz
01-21-2010, 08:56 AM
So if I steal a candy bar with the intention of some day paying for it, means I'm not a thief? This is no way to act in any business and the fact that some people are ok with this sickens me. This is the 2nd time he has gone mia and shown back up. I think it is great that he has gotten back on his feet and is fulfilling his obligations with the orders, but I would not greet him with open arms. He needs to earn our respect.
01-21-2010, 09:06 AM
Im pretty sure he understands that guys.. Other wise why the hell come back?? Point is he is making good on the orders no matter how old.. Talking $hit isn't going to help.. Just let the man make up and see what happens from there..<!--quoteo(post=347209:date=Jan 21 2010, 04:56 AM:name=BornOfFire)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (BornOfFire @ Jan 21 2010, 04:56 AM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=347209\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecSo if I steal a candy bar with the intention of some day paying for it, means I'm not a thief? This is no way to act in any business and the fact that some people are ok with this sickens me. This is the 2nd time he has gone mia and shown back up. I think it is great that he has gotten back on his feet and is fulfilling his obligations with the orders, but I would not greet him with open arms. He needs to earn our respect.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEnd
01-21-2010, 09:17 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-21-2010, 09:18 AM by bornoffire.)
You consider what I said talking $hit?
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