05-22-2010, 04:52 PM
^ This!
05-22-2010, 04:52 PM
^ This!
05-22-2010, 07:17 PM
This remake is taking all of the class out of the original... I definitely will not be seeing it.
05-28-2010, 07:54 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2010, 11:59 AM by bornoffire.)
I talked to a guy who owns his on dojo. He told me that someone teaching kung-fu in a movie named karate kid is politically correct. The reasoning is Karate and Kung-fu are generic terms and are used loosely. I can't go into detail about it cause I'm not an expert but he was saying kung-fu is typically soft while karate is more hard. So when a big guy comes out you, you wouldn't use typical kung-fu because you can not out strengthen him. So if a big dude comes at you full speed, using his speed and weight you can counter him which is considered soft. But there is soft kung-fu and soft karate and those two terms are too general of words. Hope that helps :/ I really doubt jackie chan would make a movie that wasn't true to the history of kung-fu and karate.
05-28-2010, 11:48 AM
I've had a my dojo open for 15 yrs teaching kung fu, kempo karate and jujutsu. Pepito and Bornonfire posts on the arts are correct. The terms are usued losely in asia. Karate started in China moving through Okinawa into japan. Kempo karate (which is the most popular style in japan) main foundation is kung fu based.
05-28-2010, 12:22 PM
<!--quoteo(post=363993:date=May 21 2010, 04:10 PM:name=liquidaluminum)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (liquidaluminum @ May 21 2010, 04:10 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=363993\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecThere is a HUGE difference between the two styles. LOL, best I can figure...who wants to go see a movie called "The Kung-Fu Kid" Staring: Son of Will Smith?-Joseph<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndThat made me chuckle.
<!--quoteo(post=365342:date=May 28 2010, 06:48 AM:name=Earl)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Earl @ May 28 2010, 06:48 AM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=365342\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecKempo karate (which is the most popular style in japan) .<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndNever heard that before.Most popular would be 極真空手Kyokushin Karate.
<!--quoteo(post=365349:date=May 28 2010, 09:39 AM:name=kaizu13)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (kaizu13 @ May 28 2010, 09:39 AM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=365349\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecNever heard that before.Most popular would be 極真空手Kyokushin Karate.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndKyokushin is a sub-system of Kempo. You have the art called kempo (karate) then the style of kempo (Kyokushin). Then the styles could also be broken down by soft styles (Shorin) and hard styles (Sheeto). <-- The spelling here is wrong sense the real spelling looks like cussing the forum will not allow proper spelling. LOL
05-29-2010, 02:26 AM
<!--quoteo(post=365424:date=May 28 2010, 07:05 PM:name=Earl)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Earl @ May 28 2010, 07:05 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=365424\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecKyokushin is a sub-system of Kempo. You have the art called kempo (karate) then the style of kempo (Kyokushin). Then the styles could also be broken down by soft styles (Shorin) and hard styles (Sheeto). <-- The spelling here is wrong sense the real spelling looks like cussing the forum will not allow proper spelling. LOL<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndActually we don't go by the word kempo karate.That's all.<i>smile</i>Shorin kempo would be Chinese and Sheeto would be Japanese Karate.The word kempo 拳法 is added to anything Kung-Fu. Anything of Japanese origin would be Do 道.I often see Kempos such as Shaolin-Karate which is very distracting(lol).There is no such thing, it's just a mix of both.We need the smileys and emicons back. Looks like were arguing.Ha Ha <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nuckledragger.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":nuckledragger:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"nuckledragger.gif\" />
<div align=\'right\'></div><!--quoteo(post=365436:date=May 28 2010, 10:26 PM:name=kaizu13)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (kaizu13 @ May 28 2010, 10:26 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=365436\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecActually we don't go by the word kempo karate.That's all.<i>smile</i>Shorin kempo would be Chinese and Sheeto would be Japanese Karate.The word kempo 拳法 is added to anything Kung-Fu. Anything of Japanese origin would be Do 道.I often see Kempos such as Shaolin-Karate which is very distracting(lol).There is no such thing, it's just a mix of both.We need the smileys and emicons back. Looks like were arguing.Ha Ha <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nuckledragger.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":nuckledragger:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"nuckledragger.gif\" /><!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndNo arguing here my friend. I've been studying 30 yrs and was just promoted to 7th dan last month. I'm not a historian just a long time jutsuman. lolBut you are correct in modern usage of the term. But ALL japanese karate came from chinese origin, Then grew into what we know today as hard and soft systems. The term kempo is not used in Japan but is used in Okinawa as the term karate was not used until the early 20th century. It all comes down to a modern translation for old words. Keep up the good work.
05-29-2010, 02:56 PM
<!--quoteo(post=365460:date=May 29 2010, 05:34 AM:name=Earl)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Earl @ May 29 2010, 05:34 AM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=365460\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotec<div align=\'right\'></div>No arguing here my friend. I've been studying 30 yrs and was just promoted to 7th dan last month. I'm not a historian just a long time jutsuman. lolBut you are correct in modern usage of the term. But ALL japanese karate came from chinese origin, Then grew into what we know today as hard and soft systems. The term kempo is not used in Japan but is used in Okinawa as the term karate was not used until the early 20th century. It all comes down to a modern translation for old words. Keep up the good work.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndDon't forget, the other half originates from the Okinanwan art 手Te.For the guys who don't know, Okinawa to Japan is what Hawaii is to the US.Congrats on the 7dan Earl <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/msmile79.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":frank:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"msmile79.gif\" />
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