Ken Hastings Is Back Online

[🪦 bornoffire ●]

It is everyones concern regardless if you have a glove on order or not. We as collectors and artists are the ones who shape the hobby. We have the right to voice our options whether you like it or not.

[🪦 GraveOctober ●]

I agree with Joe to an extent. Ken is trying to fix this. No reason to get all "liar! theif!" until Ken leaves again.Sounds like Ken went through a lot of stuff, and yes it was messed up not to contact you guys about it, but it seems he's back to make it right and when he leaves and is gone again, then you guys can rightfully go back to bashing I suppose.

[🪦 liquidaluminum ●]

<!--quoteo(post=347384:date=Jan 22 2010, 02:39 PM:name=allthingsevil)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (allthingsevil @ Jan 22 2010, 02:39 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=347384\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecOk so People keep asking me did you see what they are saying over at night owl. So I just wanted to come here and make eveything perfectly clear for everyone.liquidaluminum I thought we where cool man I always went above and beyound for you, I remember being abit late on a glove and you had problems getting in touch with me. So what did I do I sent you a part 2 hat for nothing along with your glove. So if I am a thief I need to retire because I suck at it.Now let me get at some of your points,First, Do I plan on building and selling gloves? NO!here is where the confusion sets in. I told everyone all the people I owe That I am working on new designs, these where from before I went missing as you would say. So this is nothing new. The reason is I will be upgrading all of the orders I owe for the delay that is why I really am working on new designs you are right but for the wrong reasons. Now dont get me wrong I may put a glove on ebay from time to time thats it really. As far as building you a glove wellThis was not definate it was infact maybe after these orders are done and this was only because I thought we where cool. I dont see a problem with making a glove for a friend from time to time theres nothing wrong with that.But as far as putting my whole time into it NO WAY! The only person who had access to my computer is my girlfrined who would be harrased thru messenger and IM's She closed my youtube page because phone numbers where being misused and She had no choice. Again emails where not changed they are still there this new address was only for my waiting customers so I can keep track of everything in one location. Keep it simple.And lastly Why Do I post at kruegear and not here well just read this thread and you can make the connection. There is no need to go out of my way so pepole who dont have gloves on order can bash me it really is none of thier concern. And you wont get a sob story out of me period! thats not why Im here. -Ken<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndDid you really just say that you went above and beyond for me? PERSONALLY...I have nothing against you other than you tarnishing my name by screwing people on all these orders that you asked me to collect for you and then didn't make good on AFTER you had already went MIA for such a long period of time. What you did caused a lot of good but pissed off people, to fill up my inbox wondering what the status of their gloves were, when after a while, you stopped responding to messages from me as well...I'd also like to add that yes, you did send me a part 2 hat free of charge, which I'm sure if you look through the forums here, you'll find where I posted talking about it. What you fail to mention however is WHY you sent me that hat for free. You didn't send it out of the goodness of your heart, you sent it because I started sending messages to your supposed wife on MSN telling her that I was getting ready to notify the authorities in your area at the time that you had committed mail fraud against me by taking payment from me along with 2 gloves that I had sent you.Work to be done on those gloves...One was a glove I purchased from you. All that needed done to it was have a new leather glove attached to the armature. THAT'S IT. You assured me that I'd have it back in about a week or so....it took you OVER A YEAR, KEN. Second glove was one that belonged to a friend of mine...all you had to do was REASSEMBLE IT. I sent it you in pieces and you were supposed to send it back in once piece. Once again, it took you OVER A YEAR, KEN. The thing that really pissed me off though, was that glove number two was supposed to be used for a haunt. I needed it back by no later than October of 07 I believe it was...that glove didn't show up until July of 08 and that was after I had talked to you on the phone several times, then you stopped taking my calls again, then you dropped off the face of the earth again until finally I spoke to your mother and told her that I was going to be pressing charges against you and only then did both gloves show up within 3 weeks of each other with a hat included in one of the boxes. I will give you this much, in one of our conversations before you stopped taking my calls again you did tell me that you were going to send me something extra for my troubles but I did not know it was a hat until it arrived and I'd also like to add that I praised you for doing so.I don't think you're a theif at all but you don't have any idea how to run a business and while I don't doubt that you've had some personal issues in the past that you had to work through, WE ALL DO AS WELL, its called life bro, but that is your excuse every single time you disappear and when I saw what people were posting in the thread that I started, I thought it only fair that I give my opinion of the matter as well, especially when I heard what was being told to other people. I do wish you the best dude, but you really need some business ethics lessons and based on all of the past experiences people have had with you, they would be insane to send you money and wait for the glove to be built. The only way I would do it at this point is if you had glove in hand ready to ship and even then, I think I've probably learned my lesson to the point that I wouldn't take the chance. I hope you are all sorted, but before you start praising yourself for going "above and beyond" tell everyone the whole story next time.-JosephOh and one more thing...I never called you a thief or said you suck at glove making, so please don't imply that I did.