Need Some Help Guys!

[🪦 null1 ●]

K guys, I need some help. In the scene where Fred turns Jason into a whimpering child does he have the hair lip??? I can\'t tell! I would assume that he does but from everything I have seen I just dont see it!! HELP!! Here are some reference pics.
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Oh, what do you guys think so far???? LMK! Still pretty rough at this point so be easy

[🪦 The13thDreamShape ●]

Hair lip? whats that?

[🪦 Prime Time ●]

its where like one part of ur lip goes almost all the way n2 ur nostril

[🪦 Dead*meaT ●]

I think so... but not a lot, just showing some teeth, you know what i mean?

[🪦 Bullzilla65 ●]

No hairlip that I can see Mark. I took those pics you had in your thread, and lightened them in psp, and from what I can see, you have your sculpture DEAD ON.
What a fantastic sculpture! Truely, you are THE MASTER *bowing*

[VF31]

i dont see the hairlip in the ref pics either...

really lookin insane mark!

[🪦 null1 ●]

Thanks guys! Still new to this though. It\'s only like my 6th piece. Just trying to get better with each one. This one is pretty difficult though. Trying to get a child like appearance yet still be wearable. There is almost 0 texture on him so its not allot of fun but I hope its all worth it in the end.
Hasnt he ALWAYS had that lip though?? Maybe I should take a poll?

Hair lip?
or
No hair lip?

[🪦 Dead*meaT ●]

pole sounds perfect.

[🪦 mike ●]

i think it does but its not as bad or long..i think it got bigger as he aged

[🪦 DAKAZA ●]

The medical term is cleft lip. I can\'t tell in the pics posted, but if you put in disc 2 of FvJ, one of the picture galleries has a few pics of kid jason and I\'m pretty sure you can clearly see it.