Scammed Again...

[🪦 andrew santagato ●]

Just a friendly reminder to those who believe in the 'Barter' system, the next time you do a 'barter and trade', make sure you get the piece you're owed BEFORE you send out your piece. I've now been screwed over TWICE because of this. Take it from a true CHUMP, the next time you have someone tell you they would like something of yours in exchange for something that THEY have, get the piece from THEM before you send out YOUR piece. I've done this twice now, and have been (I apologize to the entire forum for using such foul language) over. I'm not in the business of being a rat, so I'm not naming names.The 'barter' system should be treated like any other business transaction. It's the same as money. You wouldn't send out your product to someone who tells you that they want it, but they'll pay you AFTER they get it would you?Word to the wise ladies and gentlemen.-A

[jonl]

thanks for the tip Andrew, this hobby can be pretty ruff!! Sorry for the harsh deal man and i hope you didnt loose out to bad.

[🪦 bornoffire ●]

<!--quoteo(post=323233:date=Jul 26 2009, 07:35 PM:name=andrew santagato)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (andrew santagato @ Jul 26 2009, 07:35 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=323233\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecI'm not in the business of being a rat, so I'm not naming names.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndYou don't want to be a rat? Thats like someone breaking into your home, stealing one of your masks and then you say "I'm not going to call the police cause I'm not a rat." I'm not trying to be rude (just a little buzzed) but come on dude, don't let him get the best of you. Let it be known (or just pm me the pricks name, lol).

[🪦 Deadguy71 ●]

Sorry to hear man.. of course someone has to send first. I always send first, but I probably shouldn't be so trusting I guess.

[🪦 monteburns ●]

If I was ever going to trade it would only be with someone who was face to face in my city.That is a real slap in the face to know that you got screwed and you actually paid the shipping to lose your own item. <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/verymad.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":verymad:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"verymad.gif\" />

[🪦 crazydog500 ●]

<!--quoteo(post=323238:date=Jul 26 2009, 07:53 PM:name=BornOfFire)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (BornOfFire @ Jul 26 2009, 07:53 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=323238\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecYou don't want to be a rat? Thats like someone breaking into your home, stealing one of your masks and then you say "I'm not going to call the police cause I'm not a rat." I'm not trying to be rude (just a little buzzed) but come on dude, don't let him get the best of you. Let it be known (or just pm me the pricks name, lol).<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndSame here keep others safe of there masks

[🪦 scream4me ●]

yeah the hole trade thing dosnt fly with me, never did it personaly, probably never would unless its a true buddy ive delt with many times.even the they could turn to the dark side. like a few people we all no....... <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":mad:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"mad.gif\" /> SDD..

[🪦 caidenzakk ●]

<!--quoteo(post=323233:date=Jul 26 2009, 10:35 PM:name=andrew santagato)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (andrew santagato @ Jul 26 2009, 10:35 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=323233\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecJust a friendly reminder to those who believe in the 'Barter' system, the next time you do a 'barter and trade', make sure you get the piece you're owed BEFORE you send out your piece. I've now been screwed over TWICE because of this. Take it from a true CHUMP, the next time you have someone tell you they would like something of yours in exchange for something that THEY have, get the piece from THEM before you send out YOUR piece. I've done this twice now, and have been (I apologize to the entire forum for using such foul language) over. I'm not in the business of being a rat, so I'm not naming names.The 'barter' system should be treated like any other business transaction. It's the same as money. You wouldn't send out your product to someone who tells you that they want it, but they'll pay you AFTER they get it would you?Word to the wise ladies and gentlemen.-A<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndIn no way, shape, or form would that be considered being a RAT!! If it involves you calling the police, or crime stoppers about ant situation that does NOT involve children, then I would have to agree but warning us and everyone else in this community about a pie@e of s@it thief is doing us all a service.

[🪦 Deadguy71 ●]

For folks clamoring for a name.. He can't do that.. there's no way to prove it's legitimate, and the other party may not be availible to present their side of the story to defend themselves or say it never happened, or shipment never arrived, or whatever. That's why it's not permitted on these and many other forums. Otherwise, if I didn't like someone I could come on here randomly and accuse the heck out of them and make people not want to deal with them, etc.. without an ounce of proof. It's considered slander and internet "annonymous" slanderous posts have recently been considered actionable in court. (Even if true, apparently.. according to a recent supreme court ruling). Big no-no, and not worth the potential legal repercussions.For me, I try to avoid dealing with folks I don't see all over people's signatures, unless it's low dollar stuff, and then, if it worked out properly, they get added to my sig. It's a nice way to see who's at least BEEN trustworthy. Probably not the best possible solution, but it's better than nothing.Interestingly enough.. It means that good solid reputations are more important than ever. to "save others" from a bad person, get the police involved.

[🪦 brettyboy ●]

<!--quoteo(post=323245:date=Jul 26 2009, 11:07 PM:name=creeping death productions)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (creeping death productions @ Jul 26 2009, 11:07 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=323245\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecIn no way, shape, or form would that be considered being a RAT!! If it involves you calling the police, or crime stoppers about ant situation that does NOT involve children, then I would have to agree but warning us and everyone else in this community about a pie@e of s@it thief is doing us all a service.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndman sorry to hear that andrew I do a lot of trading but in a different hobby. I collect high end sports cards and well on the forum I go to they have a trading system with a feedback system similar to ebay. If you are new to the forum with under 20 trades done you have to send first. If you have 20 or more you can send at the same time, however if you have had negative feedback left you must send first on all deals even new ones. I think it is a great system to have so you actually know how the person is you are dealing with and you and the person you are trading with must publicly agree to the trade by pressing confirm and then if one of the people get screwed the mods then step in and try to help it get resolved. Something to think about!