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    Interesting Observation About Freddy Gloves
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    03-02-2010, 11:53 PM
    I find it interesting that, a few years back, it was extremely rare to find any Part 1 replicas with a simulated (or real) index blade break, but now <b>everybody</b> is doing this in some form or other (...even on some otherwise inaccurate gloves). It seems like there has been a great deal of convergence on this feature over the past year, or even the past few months. I recall when I had Chris Grantner make me a custom Numero Uno with this feature, he had only done one other like it up to that point in time (and he had made many, many Numero Unos by then). But now it is nearly standard.In general I find this to be a good thing, because it means replicas on the whole are getting more and more accurate. It is just interesting. The feature has always existed on the original glove. Was it just not noticed by most glovebuilders? Or deemed too trivial to care about until now? The timing of it seems to suggest the extent to which glovebuilders are influenced by each other (or by customers who are requesting features seen on other replicas).I am glad that several very talented glovemakers have recently returned to the scene so that perhaps this will also occur with a variety of other features which have generally been neglected.I personally would love to see some things become equally standard, like:- Blade edging detail (correct straight bevels, no more of the fake edging/honing stuff, and also getting all the minor abrasions)- Finger tip detail (the shaping, and solder and color patterns on the finger tips)- Backplate details (all the little details of the shape and stain, I only know one guy who really nailed this and he is not making gloves now)Hopefully some of the newer replicas (like Travis' new DESA series) will "raise the bar" and make these things commonplace too...
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    03-03-2010, 01:24 AM
    <!--quoteo(post=351981:date=Mar 2 2010, 04:53 PM:name=john p)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (john p @ Mar 2 2010, 04:53 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=351981\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecI find it interesting that, a few years back, it was extremely rare to find any Part 1 replicas with a simulated (or real) index blade break, but now <b>everybody</b> is doing this in some form or other (...even on some otherwise inaccurate gloves). It seems like there has been a great deal of convergence on this feature over the past year, or even the past few months. I recall when I had Chris Grantner make me a custom Numero Uno with this feature, he had only done one other like it up to that point in time (and he had made many, many Numero Unos by then). But now it is nearly standard.In general I find this to be a good thing, because it means replicas on the whole are getting more and more accurate. It is just interesting. The feature has always existed on the original glove. Was it just not noticed by most glovebuilders? Or deemed too trivial to care about until now? The timing of it seems to suggest the extent to which glovebuilders are influenced by each other (or by customers who are requesting features seen on other replicas).I am glad that several very talented glovemakers have recently returned to the scene so that perhaps this will also occur with a variety of other features which have generally been neglected.I personally would love to see some things become equally standard, like:- Blade edging detail (correct straight bevels, no more of the fake edging/honing stuff, and also getting all the minor abrasions)- Finger tip detail (the shaping, and solder and color patterns on the finger tips)- Backplate details (all the little details of the shape and stain, I only know one guy who really nailed this and he is not making gloves now)Hopefully some of the newer replicas (like Travis' new DESA series) will "raise the bar" and make these things commonplace too...<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndGood observation. When I came onto the scene, Travis had already been gone for over 2 years, Ken Hastings shortly stopped thereafter, Nightmares Unlimited stopped shortly thereafter, and Chris Grantner stopped shortly thereafter as well. So, there was really only myself, Nightmaregloves, and Knives4Fingers. Then Custmcraft popped up to our pleasant surprise and it seems like since then Chris Grantner made a comeback, Ken and Travis showed back up to fill outstanding orders, and other new builders started popping up left and right. As for myself, the index finger break was a feature that I personally was not interested in replicating. I did feel it was too trivial. But, SOOO many people requested it so I decided to create a Deluxe and Standard version and included the feature. I am trying to start introducing more and more features on my deluxe Resurrection glove as time goes on and thus I am where I am right now.
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    03-03-2010, 01:52 AM
    Until Mike Becker's pics came out, I don't think many people knew exactly how the index blade was reattached. I see that Chris was just joining the broken ends directly together and soldering them. This makes for a very weak joint and that isn't how it was done on the original. On the original the broken pieces overlap each other by a quarter inch with the long portion of the blade on the outside of the joint. This is why, on the orinal glove, the index blade is 4 inches from the tip and the other three are 4 1/2" from the tips. No offense to Chris because I still think he's definitely one of the very best glove builders around.
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    03-03-2010, 01:56 AM
    <!--quoteo(post=351989:date=Mar 2 2010, 08:52 PM:name=DAKAZA)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (DAKAZA @ Mar 2 2010, 08:52 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=351989\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecUntil Mike Becker's pics came out, I don't think many people knew exactly how the index blade was reattached. I see that Chris was just joining the broken ends directly together and soldering them. This makes for a very weak joint and that isn't how it was done on the original. On the original the broken pieces overlap each other by a quarter inch with the long portion of the blade on the outside of the joint. This is why, on the orinal glove, the index blade is 4 inches from the tip and the other three are 4 1/2" from the tips. No offense to Chris because I still think he's definitely one of the very best glove builders around.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndi don't mean to derail the thread or anything but where are these mike becker pictures i keep hearing about?
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    #5
    03-03-2010, 02:21 AM
    Mike Becker owns the screenused P1 glove... the Hero.
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    03-03-2010, 02:26 AM
    <!--quoteo(post=351993:date=Mar 2 2010, 09:21 PM:name=josephchoi)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (josephchoi @ Mar 2 2010, 09:21 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=351993\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecMike Becker owns the screenused P1 glove... the Hero.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndyeah i've gathered that much lol. i just don't think i've seen these pictures. if anyone has them or can give me a link that would be awesome.
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    #7
    03-03-2010, 02:32 AM
    <!--quoteo(post=351997:date=Mar 2 2010, 06:26 PM:name=auzorann)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (auzorann @ Mar 2 2010, 06:26 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=351997\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecyeah i've gathered that much lol. i just don't think i've seen these pictures. if anyone has them or can give me a link that would be awesome.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEnd<a href=\"http://www.yourprops.com/FREDDY-KRUEGER-S-ORIGINAL-HERO-GLOVE-FROM-A-NIGHTMARE-ON-ELM-STREET-1-2-original---screen-used-movie-props-A-Nightmare-On-Elm-Street--1984--prop-28869.html\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.yourprops.com/FREDDY-KRUEGER-S-...prop-28869.html</a> <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":thumbsup:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"thumbsup.gif\" />
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    03-03-2010, 03:41 AM
    <!--quoteo(post=351989:date=Mar 2 2010, 05:52 PM:name=DAKAZA)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (DAKAZA @ Mar 2 2010, 05:52 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=351989\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecUntil Mike Becker's pics came out, I don't think many people knew exactly how the index blade was reattached. I see that Chris was just joining the broken ends directly together and soldering them. This makes for a very weak joint and that isn't how it was done on the original. On the original the broken pieces overlap each other by a quarter inch with the long portion of the blade on the outside of the joint. This is why, on the orinal glove, the index blade is 4 inches from the tip and the other three are 4 1/2" from the tips. No offense to Chris because I still think he's definitely one of the very best glove builders around.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndRight, good point. On the one he did for me, it was just a simulated break, so still very strong, but the method described would be ideal.
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    #9
    03-03-2010, 05:05 AM
    I have to correct my previous post. I meant that the other three are 4 1/4" long from the tips lol
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