Cgp Orders

[🪦 Deadguy71 ●]

Don't just walk away.. Hiring a lawyer is expensive, but it's not the only way to get satisfaction on issues like these..The Federal Trade Commission covers this kinda' stuff, they won't actually help your personal claim, they just kinda' seem to go after the seller, possibly with fines or something, which might open the door for you to press a legal suit and THEN get money back, but then we're right back to the lawyer again. Here's that link that was in the other thread, regarding the FTC rule that appears to govern this stuff: <a href=\"http://www.dmaresponsibility.org/30DayRule/#5\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.dmaresponsibility.org/30DayRule/#5</a>It outlines what you're supposed to do as a seller, but doesn't really cover the aspects of being a buyer who's seller has violated this rule.Here's where you can place a report,<a href=\"https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/</a>Per that page: <!--quoteo<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE </div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecYour complaints can help us detect patterns of wrong-doing, and lead to investigations and prosecutions. The FTC enters all complaints it receives into Consumer Sentinel, a secure online database that is used by thousands of civil and criminal law enforcement authorities worldwide. The FTC does not resolve individual consumer complaints.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndSo my understanding is that if you put in a complaint, it goes in the pile, rather than personally getting you any compensation. However, it helps the folks that might stumble onto them later, and their future legal complaints. Plus perhaps the seller might try and clean up their act to avoid getting fined, or whatever, or possibly have operations suspended until they clear old debts or something (I honestly have no idea). Plus additional charges of illegal company names, etc. if they're using company names, but their company isn't an actual registered company. I beleive that's criminal charges though, not civil.. Anyways, I am NOT a lawyer in any sense of the word, I'm just pointing out my personal interpretation of the FTC stuff. I could be wrong, and you're invited to look at it yourself, and/or get an actual lawyer to interpret it for you, because I'm not giving any legal advise here.

[🪦 Baroness ●]

<!--quoteo(post=310270:date=Apr 21 2009, 02:11 PM:name=EverythingJason)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (EverythingJason @ Apr 21 2009, 02:11 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=310270\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quotecSpeaking from experience getting ripped off on numerous occasions I would like to add my two cents. People/collectors/customers need to to stop putting these businesses on some kind of pedastal and people have to be careful who they give their hard earned money to. One thing that I stopped doing that has been a huge benefit in doing business in this hobby is stop being too friendly with certain mask makers. I am sorry but if you offer something for sale and I give you my hard earned money and you state that it takes 4-6 weeks to get an item to me that is a legally binding contract. If you have waited for 2 years (!!!!) on a mask I can almost guarantee you that it won't show up and unless it comes gold plated and diamond encrusted it won't be worth the wait either.I can't stand all this talk about stand up guy this and stand up guy that. You are not a stand up guy if you can't run your business professionally and get your products delivered to your customers in a timely manner, personal problems or not. If your life is that troubled you shouldn't run a business period. Go get your life in order first.4-6 weeks is plenty of time to finish a mask, 2 years is just taking the pi$$.The worst part about this hobby is that most of these guys know exactly that most individuals won't take legal action because of the relatively low value of the item they bought but that is ultimately our biggest problem, not doing anything.Unless you are willing to spend lots of money on legal fees I would say write the mask off and go someplace where people appreciate your business and treat you like a customer should be treated - with respect.<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndIm with him on this.

[🪦 EverythingJason ●]

Thanks guys and I am glad that I am not the only one who thinks that way. The link the other gentleman posted is a great way to get something done if you can get a group of people together to do something about this issue but I am not sure how that would work in this case since the TS is located in the UK I believe?As I said, I've been ripped off more than I can count and I took all kinds of routes to try and recoup some of my money, i.e. Better Business Bureau etc. (what a farce that is). Most of the times you are just wasting your energy unless you are willing to take somebody to court.That's also one of the reasons why I stopped purchasing masks that are not already made and ready to ship. It saves you a ton of trouble and maybe it will show some of these mask makers that keeping at least a small amount of inventory is the way to run a professional business and that we as fans and followers of this hobby won't stand for getting the run around. Who in this hobby wasn't told at least once that there mask will ship within the next few days only to wait at least another three month? THAT is unacceptable.

[🪦 RCuomo 2.0 ●]

What Ive done in the past with a couple guys on this board, that I never recieved my stuff from... just disputed the charge with the credit card company (pay pal doesnt do dick for the buyer or the seller for that reason <img src=\"style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\"\" border=\"0\" alt=\"biggrin.gif\" /> )... I think you have max 90 days to dispute... dunno the exact number... but I agree 4-6 weeks is plenty of time to get a mask... this is one reason I got out of the hobby was people starting to rip others off... personally Id love to show up on the guy's front door who ripped me off and "have a chat"... I got no prob going that route... personally I would just write my mask and money off and go elsewhere... well Ill write the mask off... but not the money... I dont "accept" that Ive lost the money that I busted my a$$ off for...Just my 2 cents...Cheers,Steven

[🪦 myers04 ●]

i dont think you should post on justins site about cgp orders.]

[Willowman]

<!--quoteo(post=310390:date=Apr 21 2009, 08:08 PM:name=myers04)<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (myers04 @ Apr 21 2009, 08:08 PM) <a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=310390\"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><!--quoteci dont think you should post on justins site about cgp orders.]<!--QuoteEnd</div><!--QuoteEEndTommy couldn't be more correct. I made a post about maker bashing(which is coupled in with any other problem with a maker) earlier and will assume that not everyone saw it. Other forums allow it, but not us. Please keep all non-NIGHTOWL mask-making business practices off this site. If there is a problem with Terry, please take it up with Terry or on another forum that allows these types of discussions.