03-09-2005, 11:40 PM
I was thinking today on something, 3 somethings actually. Razorgloves, hockey masks, and Myers masks. And colors. I don\'t know how to sum up my thoughts in a post, but I\'ll give it a shot.
There seem to be 2 schools of thought when it comes to replica building, and the trick really seems to be combining what people \'think\' they see, with what\'s actually there. Take hockey masks for instance. Now the screen used hockey masks were high impact .060 abs plastic. Extremely thin, light, and flexable. But becuse of the way it looks on screen, the way the holes sink in a little bit, it gives the illusion of being a thick piece of heavy plastic, and yet it isn\'t. The rivets also. From what I\'ve heard from quite a few people who\'s opinions I trust, alot of the cheek rivets were glued on, and sometimes paper fasteners were used to hold the straps on. Because after all, this is just a quickly made film prop, usually on a tight budget. Now when we look at the Hockey Mask, we see what we think is a heavy duty thick plastic Hockey Mask with hardcore rivets and straps. So when we get a replica Hockey Mask, do we expect what we \'think\' we see? Or do we want something as close to the film prop as possible. Because of this someone may get a thin flexible Hockey Mask that\'s accurate and think, "WTF?" because we were expecting something more like a \'real\' Hockey Mask.
Same with Myers masks, what we think we see isn\'t always whats really there. Just look at how many arguments people get into over Myers masks and I\'ll bet you see my point. And the color of the coveralls? Goodness that alone starts tons of fights.
Razorgloves are the same thing. The screen prop was actually a very small armature on a medium sized leather glove. And according to my measurements with screencaps and a medium sized glove, (I\'m thinking of the part one glove) that was a really small razorglove. Add the slight flexability I see in the glove and you realize it\'s really not all that strong at all, not to mention the index finger blade broke off and had to be rejoined, hence the trademark \'bend\' in the index blade. But when people want a razorglove, they\'re expecting a hardcore heavy duty thick copper razorglove that could punch through someones head. When in reality, a solder joint no matter how well done, is only so strong. So when people get a razorglove do they really want what they see on screen? No, cuz then it would be a small glove that probably wouldn\'t fit most people and wouldn\'t be very strong, it\'d be like a prop and actually be for display. So replica makers almost have to try and guess somewhere in between the reality of the prop, and what people actually want. Which is usually the \'real\' thing, even though the \'real\' thing is usually kind of junky since it\'s just a fast cheaply made prop.
And colors? I\'m amazed by how everyone see\'s colors differently. Most people look at Jasons head in part 8 and say it looks grey. But 2 artists that I\'ve spoken with, (accomplished artists who both have unbelievable eyes when it comes to color, to the point they can look at any color, tell you what colors are mixing to make that color, and then actually mix the paint in front of you and match it) but both artists looked at Jason pt 8 and both said that his head actually has more of a green tint to it, and that the film and the camera are making it look grey. Again, the confliction between what\'s really there and what we think we see.
I know I always thought that Jason clothes in JGTH were blue, but after talking with Kane and holding a piece of the costume in my hand, I can honestly say it was a dark green. Same as the part 8 and part 7 costumes. This amazes me because my eyes see blue and black. Pinheads costume too. I always thought it was black, but it\'s actually more brown. Black clothes on camera would actually be too dark and you wouldn\'t see the details of the costume.
Anyway, don\'t know where I\'m going with all this, but it\'s something I\'ve been thinking about today. The reality VS what we think we see.
It\'s enough to almost make you just wanna stop making replicas cuz you realize that no matter what you do, ..there\'s always gonna be someone who\'s disappointed with your work because it isn\'t what they \'expected.\'
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wow, that got longer then I thought it would, lol.
There seem to be 2 schools of thought when it comes to replica building, and the trick really seems to be combining what people \'think\' they see, with what\'s actually there. Take hockey masks for instance. Now the screen used hockey masks were high impact .060 abs plastic. Extremely thin, light, and flexable. But becuse of the way it looks on screen, the way the holes sink in a little bit, it gives the illusion of being a thick piece of heavy plastic, and yet it isn\'t. The rivets also. From what I\'ve heard from quite a few people who\'s opinions I trust, alot of the cheek rivets were glued on, and sometimes paper fasteners were used to hold the straps on. Because after all, this is just a quickly made film prop, usually on a tight budget. Now when we look at the Hockey Mask, we see what we think is a heavy duty thick plastic Hockey Mask with hardcore rivets and straps. So when we get a replica Hockey Mask, do we expect what we \'think\' we see? Or do we want something as close to the film prop as possible. Because of this someone may get a thin flexible Hockey Mask that\'s accurate and think, "WTF?" because we were expecting something more like a \'real\' Hockey Mask.
Same with Myers masks, what we think we see isn\'t always whats really there. Just look at how many arguments people get into over Myers masks and I\'ll bet you see my point. And the color of the coveralls? Goodness that alone starts tons of fights.
Razorgloves are the same thing. The screen prop was actually a very small armature on a medium sized leather glove. And according to my measurements with screencaps and a medium sized glove, (I\'m thinking of the part one glove) that was a really small razorglove. Add the slight flexability I see in the glove and you realize it\'s really not all that strong at all, not to mention the index finger blade broke off and had to be rejoined, hence the trademark \'bend\' in the index blade. But when people want a razorglove, they\'re expecting a hardcore heavy duty thick copper razorglove that could punch through someones head. When in reality, a solder joint no matter how well done, is only so strong. So when people get a razorglove do they really want what they see on screen? No, cuz then it would be a small glove that probably wouldn\'t fit most people and wouldn\'t be very strong, it\'d be like a prop and actually be for display. So replica makers almost have to try and guess somewhere in between the reality of the prop, and what people actually want. Which is usually the \'real\' thing, even though the \'real\' thing is usually kind of junky since it\'s just a fast cheaply made prop.
And colors? I\'m amazed by how everyone see\'s colors differently. Most people look at Jasons head in part 8 and say it looks grey. But 2 artists that I\'ve spoken with, (accomplished artists who both have unbelievable eyes when it comes to color, to the point they can look at any color, tell you what colors are mixing to make that color, and then actually mix the paint in front of you and match it) but both artists looked at Jason pt 8 and both said that his head actually has more of a green tint to it, and that the film and the camera are making it look grey. Again, the confliction between what\'s really there and what we think we see.
I know I always thought that Jason clothes in JGTH were blue, but after talking with Kane and holding a piece of the costume in my hand, I can honestly say it was a dark green. Same as the part 8 and part 7 costumes. This amazes me because my eyes see blue and black. Pinheads costume too. I always thought it was black, but it\'s actually more brown. Black clothes on camera would actually be too dark and you wouldn\'t see the details of the costume.
Anyway, don\'t know where I\'m going with all this, but it\'s something I\'ve been thinking about today. The reality VS what we think we see.
It\'s enough to almost make you just wanna stop making replicas cuz you realize that no matter what you do, ..there\'s always gonna be someone who\'s disappointed with your work because it isn\'t what they \'expected.\'
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wow, that got longer then I thought it would, lol.
